Modeling a High View of God

Modeling a High View of God


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Join Charlie and Kristina Matz as they navigate the journey of Biblical parenting. Go behind-the-scenes as they share Biblical insights from the front lines of parenting their five children. 

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How can we model a high view of God in our home? Especially when it can appear that the world is winning important battles.

A.W. Tozer said it very well when he said: "The church rises or falls all together depending upon her view of God." I would like to update this statement for the sake of this podcast, "The Christian family rises or falls all depending upon her view of God."


  • Fear of God vs. Fear of man
  • How to talk about hot cultural topics in our home with confidence
  • Viewing the world through a Christian worldview lens every day
  • Modeling extreme confidence in God's sovereignty
  • Minimizing the importance of politics in light of Biblical truth and fear of God
  • Check out What the Bible Says About Parenting by John MacArthur and Focal Point Ministries


Charlie (00:02):
what does the Bible say about parenting? What wisdom can we gain from those who've gone before us? How can we aim to raise children into adults who repent and follow Christ? And honestly, what do we practically do when we wake up tomorrow? We're Charlie and Kristina Matz. We're on a journey to seek answers to those questions and much more.

Kristina (00:20):
We have four kids and one on the way. So we're always praying and learning and growing and what God in the Bible have to say about raising these wonderful children. This is the behind the scenes of our life with children seeking to raise them in biblical wisdom. Join us and together let's work to confidently navigate the journey and Christian parenting.

Charlie (00:41):
Today we are talking about how to model a high view of God, especially when the world's agenda seems to be winning. We share what our role as parents is in this equation and how we can prepare children for the guaranteed disappointments that every Christian will face this side of heaven. But first one curious thing.

Kristina (01:00):
Okay. So I share this with total permission from Charlie, but he has this really curious thing that he does. Every time he brushes his teeth, he gags himself. And so you think there's this real quiet moment where we're brushing our teeth and it's real serene, retired before bed? Nope. Every time. It's

Charlie (01:21):
not every time

Kristina (01:24):
I would say no. It's like, like quiet interesting is, is that, I always thought this was just the really unique thing about Charlie and you know, no one else, I can't imagine anyone else who does this, but we have these new friends through the church plan that we've gotten to know. And this came up in conversation the other day and her husband does the same thing. So now I wonder like how many of you, either you or your spouse cannot brush your teeth without gagging?

Charlie (01:59):
Well, he's also incredibly good looking and really funny. So I guess that's like if you, if you have those two traits, then you also gag. Awesome. You gag when you brush your teeth. Yeah, pretty much. I mean that's, that's one of the little boxes that gets changed and that whole thing along with humility. If you're thinking, why are they doing this? One curious thing, because you're new to the podcast. It's a segment we're doing, so you can try to get to know us a little bit more. We can be transparent and open. We heard that actually helps build trust with people. So hopefully we're becoming friends too. And soon we'll know if you gag when you brush your teeth as well. If you do, we'd love to know the jumping in a resource that you should get is what the Bible says about parenting by John MacArthur. It's an incredible book, outlines a lot of the different things that we typically talk about. I mean, at the end of the day, there's some really major, uh, you know, topics that every Christian parenting discussion's going to center on John like he does with every other resource I've ever read of. His does a great job at breaking down what the Bible says about parenting. That's the title of the book. That's exactly what he does. Please go pick this up if you're a Christian parent and read it.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Absolutely. Another great resource is focal point ministries. So this is the ministry of pastor Mike Ferez, who we cannot say enough good things about his preaching and we got to sit under his preaching for five years, but focal point ministries has existed for much longer than that and reaches people all over the nation, all over the world. And you can go there and search by topic, by book of the Bible and listen to sermons and different Q and A's that he's done. He doesQ and A's every year. So that's always awesome. And we actually listened to a lot of parenting sermons and Q and A's about six years ago when we first started listening to, uh, pastor Mike for Barra. So, uh, they have an app that you can just download focal point ministries and then listen to whatever you want.

Charlie (04:08):
All right, so jumping into modeling a high view of God when the world is seemingly winning. Well, AAW Tozer said it very well when he said the church rises or falls altogether, depending upon her view of God. I would like to update this statement for the sake of this podcast. The Christian family rises or falls all together depending upon her view of God. So a high view of God. What are some ways that we can present this to our children and model this as adults? Well, for one I would say, you know, to um, kind of quote my former pastor, if the neighbors on your block don't think you're a little weird, you're doing it wrong. Uh, you know, high view of God places, everything else solo that we might look foolish probably will look foolish in our pursuit of him. You know, we don't watch that movie or we don't wear that bathing suit or you know, we don't do this or that.

Charlie (05:01):
We're, we're going to look different. Our kids are going to see us making choices because, uh, God is so high and we don't want to even come close to crossing that line. Uh, that other things are going to be put lower in our life and we're going to look a little different. Secondly is that we're not going to freak out. That same pastor used to say, as Christians, we need to be unfree countable so our kids need to see us be unfree countable. And Proverbs 24, 19 through 20, it says, fret not yourself because of evil doers and be not envious of the wicked for the evil man has no future. The lamp of the wicked will be put out.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
We also need to be super careful that we don't let our fear of the evil things around us prevent us from talking about important issues with our children. Things like gender, homosexuality and abortion should not be taboo in our homes already. There are schools in certain States that are beginning to teach these lessons in kindergarten and others will quickly behind. And what we need to realize is that the secular agenda of the sexual revolution and um, just liberalism and as far as even just the death mentality and the death culture around abortion, they recognize that four and five year olds are where they need to target to start shaping minds and ideas. And if they get that man, we'd be so foolish to not pay attention to the same thing. We need to make sure that we are taking advantage of the moments we have.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Even with our young children. We need to understand that if we don't direct our children in these issues, someone else will. It could be a friend in the neighborhood, can even be a kid in their Sunday school class. There is no safe Haven for our children where they can be protected from the realities of the world that they are growing up in. And this even means that even if you homeschool your children, we homeschool our children. It's not a bubble and it shouldn't be really. We want to make sure that we are equipping our children even from a small age on how to rightly think through the world around them, not to completely take them out of the world around them because that's just not, that's not real. That's not practical. We don't want simple naive children. We want children who have biblical wisdom and discernment. So we want to keep this conversation ongoing and natural in our home so that we as their parents are the voice that they seek when they begin to have questions of their own about these issues.

Charlie (07:27):
Yeah, and to piggyback off that, I would say, you know, one of the ways that we can do that and train for that is to do that as spouses, right? I mean, Christina and I, we need to be talking about this stuff. So maybe we're listening to the briefing in the morning and that afternoon we're able to catch up and talk about what's going on in the world and navigate that with a biblical worldview. So we need to be listening to resources that are helping us understand the biblical worldview. A lot of this stuff is in the gray areas. Some of it's not, some of it's very black and white, but conversations are going to navigate in and out of the gray. So we need to understand the word of God so well and we need to understand God's character so well that we know how to navigate through with a biblical worldview.

Charlie (08:10):
Now going back to a high view of God, we need to understand that at all costs, we don't come close to the line. Like I was saying before that we are going to err on the side of pleasing God, not pleasing man. And there are some real ways right now, like one of the ways that we can see this not being done well. Our pastors are being put on the spot publicly and asked what they believe about some of these things that are hot topics in our culture and they kowtow, they, they laid down, um, you know, in front of these, you know, cultural trucks and let them run them, run them over and not stand up for the, what the word of God clearly says. And so we can talk about that with our children and make sure that we're never doing the same thing. If they see us in discussions with other adults or they see us discussing that as a family, that we always go back to scripture and what it says.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Absolutely. I wanted to share too, just a real life example of what this looks like in our home to try to make it less intimidating than it might seem. You know, um, just earlier, you know, a couple months ago we had a conversation at the breakfast table that came up about gender. It came up naturally as we were sitting there talking over our meal and we were able to talk about situations that our kids have already encountered. Either, you know, someone they knew personally or as something they heard about. We talked to them about how to approach children that are confused, um, that are being, you know, manipulated or led to believe one for one way or another that they are not actually the gender God assigned. And we want to make sure our children first and foremost address these kids with love and compassion and not harsh judgment.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Um, we also talk about what is gender based on, you know, I asked my kids that question, how do we know what our gender is? You'd actually be surprised, the kind of clear, logical thinking that comes from the mouth of children. Even very young children, as adults, we live in a world where this gets convoluted again and again. And so we think it's too big of an issue for our kids, our kids, because they're simpler thinkers actually get to the heart of these issues way faster than adults do. And we want to applaud that and encourage them to keep thinking that way. So we're able to talk about how gender has nothing to do with our emotions or the things that we like or dislike. It is an assignment given to us by God. It's very clear. It's clear in everything about our makeup and that's what we can look to.

Charlie (10:44):
So let, let me give you a real clear example of, of in our home is me as the leader. What happens, let's say a bill gets passed, let's say it's the next election. And you know, it's this scary time because there's a wave of new laws and bills getting passed and they're just very anti biblical, very anti-Christian. Well, the way that I can approach that to display a high view of God is to always go back to scripture. Just go back to what scripture says that, what does scripture say about who's in control? What does scripture say about the end result of all this? What does scripture say about people and who they are and whose image they are created in and ultimately salvation. Because if I start to approach it from an emotional standpoint, there's a couple of things that are going to happen.

Charlie (11:31):
One, I'm going to be freak outable. I'm going to be somebody who my kids see freak out, you know, and tossed like, you know, a wave in the ocean. And if it's a good season of bills being passed, I'm okay. If it's a bad season of bills being passed, I'm freaking out. That should not be the case. We should be steady, uh, standing on the rock of Christ and on the, what word of God says. Secondly, I'm going to start to lose compassion for the lost and I'm going to breed a lack of compassion for the lost. I know I've been around people before where there's a lot of arguing and, and uh, disappointment in the home about politics and, uh, you know, just emotionally charged things that we can wrap our lives around. Right? And what happens is it becomes a family full of haters and complainer's, even though they were the label of a Christian family, they start to really, um, pit themselves, us against them.

Charlie (12:27):
Now we hate sin, right? We don't like Santa and we don't like any of this stuff happening, but God's very clear that he's got it taken care of and he will have his way with each person. It's our job at this point to love our enemies, to present the gospel when possible and to ultimately pray. I think the other thing that I can do, the ultimate thing is I can show my children that I believe in prayer, that I believe God what God says about prayer and how important it is. If I'm going to at all, you know, show my disdain for a bill that gets passed. You know, how horrible is it if I'm not willing to, you know, and the same in the next breath, stop everything and pray for those people, pray for the people that will be affected by it one way or the other. You know, we need to be a praying family. I need to be a praying husband and father to set the tone in my home. That ultimately maybe the first step and the most important step ultimately in displaying a high view of God.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Absolutely. And I think, you know, we do have a couple of older children with us so you know, it might be easy to say, well yeah you can have that conversation with an 11 year old or even, you know, an eight year old. But when we have conversations that come up, like we don't send our two year old and our five-year-old out of the room, and I think something that's helpful to just recognizes little ears that aren't yet interested. They're not really going to be listening much, but you still want to give foundational truths to those little ears. So what they are absorbing is just clear, right? Like you can have a four year old who just knows that God's design is for a man and a woman to be married. And if that's not followed, God is dishonored. That's a really simple, clear truth that doesn't get into anything that we might see as as perverse or weird that just a four year old can understand and be able to recognize and acknowledge as good and right. We want to make sure that we are keeping things in these conversations. Simple and to the point. We're aiming at God's glory. We are not aiming at the curiosities of our children. We want to make sure we're feeding their thirst for truth and not their hunger for curiosity. That's our job as parents.

Charlie (14:43):
And ultimately, I'll leave you this. We're raising adults, these children, if all goes to plan in our life, they're going to repent and follow Christ. They're going to be these adult Christians who are gonna live in a world where it costs way, way more to be a Christian than it does now. So if we teach our children to hide away from these discussions and hide away from how God's truth combats and rubs against and grates against the way the world operates, then we're going to set them up for major failure because we not only want to raise adults who repent and follow Christ and choose the Lord, but we want them to never break under the pressure that will be put on their plate. We want them to say, yes, Lord, send me and I will be faithful to the calling. No matter how hot the heat gets turned up.

Charlie (15:37):
So remember, get John MacArthur's book. That's a great first step. Uh, John MacArthur is very much in alignment with a lot of the stuff we're talking about. I would say more so we're in alignment with him. Yeah. MacArthur is a legend and he is a wonderful author. What the Bible says about parenting. Pick that up. Do what Christina and I did. We actually got two copies so that she can Mark one up. I can Mark one up. We could really dig into it and keep, it was one of those books we pull off the shelf often and also focal point, as Christina mentioned, go download the app, listen to sermons often. Look up the Q and A's on parenting and really feed yourself that knowledge.

Kristina (16:17):
Thank you for joining us on this week's episode of fair essentials. We recorded this episode in our sweet little home studio in Meridian, Idaho. Come back next week to hear more about our very real life on this incredible journey of biblical parenting.

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